For over a century, neuroscience has assumed that consciousness is generated by the brain.
But what if this assumption is wrong?

In this episode of Mind-Body Solution, Dr. Tevin Naidu is joined by Professor Edward F. Kelly - co-author of Irreducible Mind, Beyond Physicalism, Consciousness Unbound (and many more) — to examine the empirical and conceptual evidence that consciousness cannot be fully explained by brain activity alone.

Drawing on decades of research across neuroscience, psychology, linguistics, psychiatry, and psychical research, Kelly argues that:
• Memory cannot be localized to neural storage
• Consciousness persists under clinical unconsciousness
• Psi phenomena are empirically real and theoretically disruptive
• Physicalism fails both scientifically and philosophically

The conversation explores near-death experiences, dissociation, extraordinary cognition, process philosophy, William James, Whitehead, idealism, dual-aspect monism, and what a post-physicalist science of mind might look like.

This is not speculation - it is a sober assessment of where the data actually lead.

TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 – Introduction: The Limits of Brain-Based Models: Kelly’s career, scope of inquiry, and why physicalism fails to account for mind
04:00 – Early Linguistics Work & the Collapse of Meaning-as-Representation: Why semantic understanding can’t be reduced to symbol manipulation or AI models
08:55 – First Direct Encounter with Psi Phenomena: Meeting high-performing experimental subjects and abandoning residual skepticism
13:45 – Why Physicalism Cannot Accommodate Psi as Facts of Nature:
Empirical accumulation forces a worldview shift
17:10 – The Cultural Consequences of Reductive Materialism: How mechanistic metaphysics shapes ecological and existential crises
21:30 – Irreducible Mind: Strategy and Scope: Why Kelly and colleagues targeted physicalism empirically first
25:40 – Memory, Genius & the Failure of Neural Storage Models: Why memory traces and brain localization fall short
29:30 – Extreme Psychophysical Phenomena: Stigmata, maternal impressions, and mind–body influence beyond placebo
33:50 – Dissociative Identity Disorder & Multiple Centers of Consciousness: Why unitary brain-mind assumptions break down
37:20 – Near-Death Experiences Under Clinical Unconsciousness: Verified perception during anesthesia and cardiac arrest
41:05 – Empirical vs Conceptual Failures of Materialism: Why both lines of critique are now unavoidable
44:50 – The Need for a Post-Physicalist Theory: Why data alone can’t shift science without a new metaphysical framework
49:25 – Beyond Physicalism: Surveying Alternative Worldviews: Idealism, dual-aspect monism, panentheism, and mystical traditions
55:10 – Whitehead, Process Philosophy & Its Limits: Why mystical experience must be taken seriously as data
59:20 – William James, the Subliminal Self & the Pluralistic Universe: Consciousness as layered, expansive, and not brain-produced
1:03:35 – Consciousness Unbound: New Empirical Frontiers: Reincarnation cases, precognition, and psychedelic-induced mysticism
1:07:45 – Bernardo Kastrup, Analytic Idealism & Survival Debates: Where Kelly agrees—and where he diverges
1:11:30 – Physics, Possibility & Reality Beyond Actuality: Quantum foundations, potentiality, and expanded ontology
1:15:55 – The New Book: Narrowing to Viable Post-Physicalist Theories: Why process philosophy and organismic biology are converging
1:19:20 – Consciousness Below the Brain: Cells, Organisms & Evolution: Why mind may extend deep into life itself
1:23:30 – Closing Reflections: Toward an Expanded Science of Mind: What replacing physicalism actually means for humanity

EPISODE LINKS:
- Ed's Website: https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/dops-staff/ed-kelly/
- Ed's Publications: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=q42C6BwAAAAJ&hl=en
- Ed's Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001IU2STW

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